Poll - Forbidden Fruit

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 07/13/2015 at 12:37 • Filed to: poll, cruisin

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In the US these are are both highly desirable forbidden fruits and I think they are both great, despite my obvious Land Cruiser Bias. However, which would you choose, were they suddenly available tomorrow on our shores.

A few comparison points - [Price translated to USD making a few guesses]

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Closer than I though on price. The Cruiser wins the day with power but the defender much lighter. For some this will be a logical choice, for most it will be emotional. So which would you choose and why?

TheHondaBro > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 12:40

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Land Cruiser because I enjoy reliability.

Tareim - V8 powered > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 12:40

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Defender 110, looks better imo and the lower weight, smaller engine will be more noticeable on the fuel economy

atrombs > TheHondaBro 07/13/2015 at 12:42

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If I could get the Land Cruiser drivetrain with the Defender styling I would be in heaven.

EL_ULY > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 12:42

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“pole”

LC78 because ultra badass!

misfitmascots > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 12:43

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Landcruiser, I enjoy going places and not considering how I’ll get back home

Alfalfa Romeo > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 12:43

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Despite my general British bias (electrical demons be damned!), I really like Land Cruisers and this looked tough before I saw the side-by-side comparison. But between V8 and locking diffs, I think I would go with the Land Cruiser.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 12:45

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If I have to have four doors, then I’d take the Toyota Land Crusher.

Otherwise, Defender 90. Because short wheelbase.

HammerheadFistpunch > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 07/13/2015 at 12:49

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well the 78 doesn’t have 4 doors, so there is that. I guess this should have been a 76 to 110 comparison, but whateves. If you want a short 70 series, you can get one. They used to make (and still do for some markets) a short wheelbase 70

Party-vi > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 12:49

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Defender. I’m not sure how you would cut almost 700lb out of the Land Cruiser (maybe with a sawzall?), and I can always install my own lockers.

$kaycog > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 12:50

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Defender just because.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 12:52

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As much as I irrationally like the Rover V8, I’d be the first to admit the Puma diesel is an upgrade in general. Enough of an upgrade, that despite the lower hp numbers, the tq/weight is almost the same as both the V8 and the Cruiser, making it only at high speed that the difference really matters. Other than that, I’d go with the one I’d like working on and driving more, so the Defender it is.

Cé hé sin > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 12:52

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Can’t vote because not forbidden fruit, live too near LR dealer.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 12:52

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I need moar doors, lol, and it’s easy peasy to slap in some lockers.

HammerheadFistpunch > Party-vi 07/13/2015 at 12:53

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Yeah, but 700 isn’t as much when you load both up to max GVW. I mean 6900 lbs vs 7500...at that point, does it matter?

BReLp7dzHM3ytYsE > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 12:54

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Money no object, I'd take the 110 because it's being discontinued and it's awesome, then send it to Twisted UK for an LS3 and all that other stuff.

cazzyodo > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 12:54

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Zombie apocalypse choice is the Land Cruiser but my actual (and debatably flawed) choice is the Defender.

HammerheadFistpunch > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 07/13/2015 at 12:55

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Well, if we wanted doors to doors i would have chosen a 76 series wagon, which is a little less money and as well.

So I guess there is that.

HammerheadFistpunch > $kaycog 07/13/2015 at 12:56

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Thats fair, I think thats 50% of the 110’s appeal. There is just something “special” about the looks. Its very emotional that way.

Party-vi > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 12:57

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If I get stuck somewhere I like to think it would make some difference :)

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > misfitmascots 07/13/2015 at 12:59

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Well, let’s be fair. The six-speed getrag isn’t a bad box, the axles are fine, and the Puma diesel is a Ford. Mechanically speaking, you’ll probably get home, as long as you don’t need lights, dash lights, working seats, proper steering function, brakes, or the thousands of other things that might come over all Lucas.

$kaycog > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 12:59

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Yeah, I have great emotions looking at it.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 13:07

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..yeah...I’m still gonna go with the Land Rover.....

RallyWrench > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 13:16

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I’ve got to go with the Defender. It’s just an iconic rig, like the 60-series Cruiser.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 13:18

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Land Cruiser, because I want one. But I voted Land Rover out of pride.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 16:07

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Exterior dimensions would also play a role.

HammerheadFistpunch > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 07/13/2015 at 16:08

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in which case a 2 door 73 is much smaller.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > HammerheadFistpunch 07/13/2015 at 16:12

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I see what happened here:

78 troopy

I assumed that the 70 Series Land Cruiser wasn’t in play and instead you were talking about some wacked out Isuzu on crack in a time warp (Since the Trooper didn’t show up until 1981)

HammerheadFistpunch > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 07/13/2015 at 16:15

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Ah, gotcha.

Have car, will drive (now has a motorcycle too) > HammerheadFistpunch 07/14/2015 at 02:14

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It’s a close one, but as others have said, reliability wins the day for the LandCruiser.

Full disclosure: I live in Australia where I can buy both of these, which may disqualify me for your poll ;-)

pip bip - choose Corrour > HammerheadFistpunch 07/14/2015 at 04:21

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this!

you’ll never regret it!

505 - morphine not found > HammerheadFistpunch 07/14/2015 at 11:37

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The Defender is very capable off road because it’s light, and light where it counts the most, but other than that, it’s full of flaws. Some call that character, I on the other hand had a couple of weeks with one, and that’s enough for me - I’ll have a J70, thank you.

HammerheadFistpunch > 505 - morphine not found 07/14/2015 at 11:40

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The defender has charm and that’s why its used in clothing catalogs, but i don’t know anyone outside of the dyed in the wool faithful (and bless their hearts for staying faithful) that wouldn’t rather have the Toyota when it came down to actually getting stuff done.

505 - morphine not found > HammerheadFistpunch 07/14/2015 at 12:06

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Absolutely. While we are at forbidden fruit, I have a story for you about the HZJ70. As i mentioned before I know a guy who works with all sorts of old Land Cruisers, and thus has gotten a nexus in the Toyota headquarters. He too wanted to have the J70, but it’s not imported in Europe either, the local importer only sells the 200 and the Prada, and won’t get you one, even if you ask nicely. So the guy asked Japan, and they said sure, if you pay for it, we’ll ship you one, but you’ll have to import it yourself - and the car isn’t compliant with European emission regulations. However, and this is the funny bit, there is a relatively easy fix for that, makes the engine Euro 5 compliant, so it can be done, and being a mechanic, they sure figured this out. However most countries don’t accept aftermarket modifications, they only accept cars that were made compliant by the factory. Not the Germans though, the TÜV has the right to pass cars based on measurement, not just factory papers, if it’s good it gets a plate. So he got himself a j70 from japan, disembarked the car in Germany, modified it on site, got through TÜV inspection, and then, with the German Fahrzeugbrief in hand, he could now import the car in whichever European country he saw fit. Nice.

But then customers of him also wanted one. So he did this again and again. And then the freaking Slovakian Border Guard decided, that the best vehicle for their needs would be the j70, but because the importer still didn’t want any of this, they couldn’t get it, until they heard there’s this LC garage in Hungary, that could help them. So he landed an order for 60 j70s (20-20-20 from three different body types), which is more, than the number of LCs the importer sells a year.... And because Japan had no problem selling him this number, he delivered.

I mean, come on. That’s a business case right there, but Toyota of Europe just doesn’t want it.

HammerheadFistpunch > 505 - morphine not found 07/14/2015 at 12:17

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Thats a really cool story. I wish that trick worked here something fierce.